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INTERVIEW WITH TREY PERKINS AND DEREK O'DELL

by Brian Williams, NBC News

4/16/07

[Transcribed from the video by Tara Carreon, American Buddha Online Librarian]

NBC News, April 16: Brian Williams is on the campus of Virginia Tech University and talks to two of the students who witnessed the shootings early Monday Morning.

Trey Perkins and Derek O'Dell, two young men you just saw in Kevin's report are both Sophomores here at Virginia Tech. Derek, who was shot in the arm along with Trey is with us now, and Derek, we'll start with you . First of all, your wounds: how long have you been out of treatment, and what did doctors tell you, what happened?

[Derek O'Dell] The doctors actually treated me really quickly considering the circumstances. I was shot in the arm and the bullet went through, and I was in and out of the hospital in under two hours.

[Brian Williams] They have said they used a larger caliber 9 mm. and a smaller .22. Was your wound caused by that smaller caliber .22, do you know?

[Derek ODell] I'm not really sure. They didn't tell us at the hospital.

[Brian Williams] Okay. Well, let's begin with the story and Derek, maybe we'll start with Trey, and tell us where you were when it started.

[Trey Perkins] We were both sitting in German class. He actually sits right in front of me. I remember looking at my clock at 9:35, and about ten minutes later we heard some gunshots across the hall. We really didn't know what it was at the time. After we hard that, a man just ran in, he shot our professor, and we all just got on the ground really quick, and he just continued to shoot, and I was just praying that, you know, I would be okay, and that so many people around me would be okay as well, and I'm incredibly fortunate that I wasn't hit.

[Brian Williams] So you just dove under your desk? Did you pile together at all, or were you all individuals?

[Trey Perkins] It was a very small class so there weren't a lot of people to get together, so I turned a couple of desks over to try to get that between us and the shooter. He shot for probably a minute and a half, and after that he left. And I got up, I saw Derek, he had been hit in the arm, and another girl in our class as well, she was standing up. And we went over to the door, and the three of us were just trying to keep it shut, and he eventually tried to come back in, he was pushing on the door trying to get back in, but we were holding it shut with our feet and our hands, and he shot through the door four or five times. Fortunately, none of us were hit when he was shooting through the door, and after that he just finally went away, and I just started looking around and I went over to another student who had been shot in the leg, I just took my sweatshirt off and kind of put it on his leg to try and stop the bleeding, just try to do whatever I could, and the police arrived pretty shortly after that.

[Brian Williams] Derek, describe it for me. It's been said that he was wearing a vest with a couple of clips of ammo on it?

[Derek O'Dell] I saw him actually reload the clip while he was in our room. He unloaded probably 8 or 10 shots into people in our class, very tragically, and he reloaded his clip and nobody could really stop him because we were all scared out of our minds.

[Brian Williams] Its like in a movie, where you see people reload in the movies and on television.

[Derek O'Dell] Yeah, he looked to be trained in how fast he reloaded the gun.

[Brian Williams] How would you describe him physically?

[Derek O'Dell] He was a male Asian about six feet tall with a maroon hat, and a leather jacket on.

[Brian Williams] Would you guys recognize him from around campus?

[Trey Perkins] Not at all.

[Brian Williams] So I know you don't have a heck of a lot of time to think beyond saving your own life, do you remember having any thoughts while you were barricading yourself under a piece of furniture?

[Trey Perkins] I thought of my mom, and about how when she hears about it, what is going to go through her head, and if something was to happen to me, how she would deal with it.

[Brian Williams] How is it you think you guys have held it together to be able to even do this, and stand here and talk to us here tonight?

[Derek O'Dell] I think we're both still in shock. It's a surreal moment that's happened to both of us, and for us to both be here, it's amazing we were saved.

[Brian Williams] Well, look, I know I join all of our viewers in saying we're sorry for the loss of your fellow students, and the whole nation reaches out to you. You've got a lot of support if and when you need it. And we're thankful you were able to describe this for us and our viewers tonight. You guys take care. Thank you gentlemen. Thank you very much. Our thanks to Derek and Trey, an emotional story that is still coming out in stories like theirs.

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