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RAM DASS:  FIERCE GRACE -- ILLUSTRATED SCREENPLAY & SCREENCAP GALLERY

[Mark Matousek, Editor] And we're also, it's very balanced, Ram Dass,

because you're saying there was a physical reason, there were psychological reasons,

and the spiritual reason, which you interpret as having been given a stroke, and being held down.

[Ram Dass] Being stroked.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] Being stroked, yeah.

[Ram Dass] That's being stroked is very crucial because -- that phrase.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] Yes.  Yes. Yeah, I think that's good.

[Ram Dass] Yep. Okay.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] "Physically this happened because of a blood clot, and I'm a happy accident of nature, but spiritually it was fierce grace." Shall we just say "my guru had stroked me under his blanket?"

[Ram Dass] No, no.  That's mixture of metaphors.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] Alright.  "My guru under whose grace I am."

[Ram Dass] No.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] "Was stroking me?"  Should we say that?

[Ram Dass] Had stroked me.  Had stroked me.

[Mark Matousek, Editor] Right, right, right.  Uh hum, that's nice. 

"Healing is not after all the same as curing."

[Ram Dass] No.

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